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	<title>Comments on: Firefox 3 - SVG foreignObject</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 06:02:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: HTML in SVG &#171; openil</title>
		<link>http://starkravingfinkle.org/blog/2007/07/firefox-3-svg-foreignobject/#comment-3372</link>
		<dc:creator>HTML in SVG &#171; openil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 15:05:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] &#8220;HTML in SVG&#8221; ?????????????????? ??? http://starkravingfinkle.org/blog/2007/07/firefox-3-svg-foreignobject. ????????????????????????????? web [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] &#8220;HTML in SVG&#8221; ?????????????????? ??? <a href="http://starkravingfinkle.org/blog/2007/07/firefox-3-svg-foreignobject" rel="nofollow">http://starkravingfinkle.org/blog/2007/07/firefox-3-svg-foreignobject</a>. ????????????????????????????? web [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Surf*Mind*Musings &#187; Adobe AIR Bus Tour inspired Mozilla thoughts</title>
		<link>http://starkravingfinkle.org/blog/2007/07/firefox-3-svg-foreignobject/#comment-3120</link>
		<dc:creator>Surf*Mind*Musings &#187; Adobe AIR Bus Tour inspired Mozilla thoughts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 18:47:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] new GranParadiso SVG does offer the potential to scale and rotate live webpages, but it&#8217;s pretty beta. The new FUEL API to bookmarks is still a bit clumsy for walking the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] new GranParadiso SVG does offer the potential to scale and rotate live webpages, but it&#8217;s pretty beta. The new FUEL API to bookmarks is still a bit clumsy for walking the [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: skierpage</title>
		<link>http://starkravingfinkle.org/blog/2007/07/firefox-3-svg-foreignobject/#comment-2862</link>
		<dc:creator>skierpage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jul 2007 21:32:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very cool.  Scrolling the HTML up and down blits weird chunks -- known bug?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very cool.  Scrolling the HTML up and down blits weird chunks &#8212; known bug?</p>
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		<title>By: Brutuscat</title>
		<link>http://starkravingfinkle.org/blog/2007/07/firefox-3-svg-foreignobject/#comment-2855</link>
		<dc:creator>Brutuscat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jul 2007 17:44:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Awesome the transforms. Some screens would be ok also ;) to those that don't want to download Firefox3.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awesome the transforms. Some screens would be ok also <img src='http://starkravingfinkle.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> to those that don&#8217;t want to download Firefox3.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Schiller</title>
		<link>http://starkravingfinkle.org/blog/2007/07/firefox-3-svg-foreignobject/#comment-2853</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Schiller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jul 2007 15:28:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well this is the first time I've filled out an HTML form on a 20 degree angle.

Your first example was more interesting to me - seems like we can use SVG foreignObject to emulate rounded corners of divs or gradients on divs, etc.  It's unfortunate that Mozilla doesn't support SVG as CSS background-image (which would probably be the preferred way).  Opera 9.5 will be able to do this.

So let's say I want a div to have a gradient background with rounded corners - I'd like to use SVG to do this.  Any thoughts of detecting capabilities across browser?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well this is the first time I&#8217;ve filled out an HTML form on a 20 degree angle.</p>
<p>Your first example was more interesting to me - seems like we can use SVG foreignObject to emulate rounded corners of divs or gradients on divs, etc.  It&#8217;s unfortunate that Mozilla doesn&#8217;t support SVG as CSS background-image (which would probably be the preferred way).  Opera 9.5 will be able to do this.</p>
<p>So let&#8217;s say I want a div to have a gradient background with rounded corners - I&#8217;d like to use SVG to do this.  Any thoughts of detecting capabilities across browser?</p>
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		<title>By: enefekt</title>
		<link>http://starkravingfinkle.org/blog/2007/07/firefox-3-svg-foreignobject/#comment-2852</link>
		<dc:creator>enefekt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jul 2007 11:40:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is really cool, thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is really cool, thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Longson</title>
		<link>http://starkravingfinkle.org/blog/2007/07/firefox-3-svg-foreignobject/#comment-2849</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Longson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jul 2007 10:38:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are some caveats to using HTML text instead of SVG text. 

a) SVG text does not scale independently of the SVG image so if you increase or decrease the text size in the browser it has no effect on your SVG text. If you use HTML text however this will change size, possibly obscuring parts of your drawing.

b) SVG text ignores the browser's minimum font size. I.e. Tools-&#62;Options-&#62;Fonts &#38; Colours(Advanced)-&#62;Minimum Font Size. If you have this set your HTML replacement text may come out bigger than you expect on your drawing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are some caveats to using HTML text instead of SVG text. </p>
<p>a) SVG text does not scale independently of the SVG image so if you increase or decrease the text size in the browser it has no effect on your SVG text. If you use HTML text however this will change size, possibly obscuring parts of your drawing.</p>
<p>b) SVG text ignores the browser&#8217;s minimum font size. I.e. Tools-&gt;Options-&gt;Fonts &amp; Colours(Advanced)-&gt;Minimum Font Size. If you have this set your HTML replacement text may come out bigger than you expect on your drawing.</p>
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