Comments on: Mozilla 2 - The Future of the Mozilla Platform http://starkravingfinkle.org/blog/2008/02/mozilla-2-the-future-of-the-mozilla-platform/ Mon, 08 Sep 2008 06:02:52 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5 By: Byron http://starkravingfinkle.org/blog/2008/02/mozilla-2-the-future-of-the-mozilla-platform/#comment-5370 Byron Sun, 24 Feb 2008 21:06:54 +0000 http://starkravingfinkle.org/blog/2008/02/mozilla-2-the-future-of-the-mozilla-platform/#comment-5370 I personally am happy to hear about the “Less Binary Code” theme, because that way slight optimizations to the js engine will result in optimizations all over the place. Great to hear it Mark! I personally am happy to hear about the “Less Binary Code” theme, because that way slight optimizations to the js engine will result in optimizations all over the place. Great to hear it Mark!

]]> By: Justin Rodes http://starkravingfinkle.org/blog/2008/02/mozilla-2-the-future-of-the-mozilla-platform/#comment-5291 Justin Rodes Fri, 15 Feb 2008 19:16:12 +0000 http://starkravingfinkle.org/blog/2008/02/mozilla-2-the-future-of-the-mozilla-platform/#comment-5291 @Mark Finkle Got it. Thanks! @Mark Finkle

Got it. Thanks!

]]> By: Mark Finkle http://starkravingfinkle.org/blog/2008/02/mozilla-2-the-future-of-the-mozilla-platform/#comment-5255 Mark Finkle Thu, 14 Feb 2008 07:12:57 +0000 http://starkravingfinkle.org/blog/2008/02/mozilla-2-the-future-of-the-mozilla-platform/#comment-5255 Generally, "Gecko" is the rendering engine while "Mozilla" is the entire platform: rendering engine, JS engine, XPCOM services, XULRunner runtime, ... Generally, “Gecko” is the rendering engine while “Mozilla” is the entire platform: rendering engine, JS engine, XPCOM services, XULRunner runtime, …

]]> By: Dan http://starkravingfinkle.org/blog/2008/02/mozilla-2-the-future-of-the-mozilla-platform/#comment-5250 Dan Wed, 13 Feb 2008 22:38:34 +0000 http://starkravingfinkle.org/blog/2008/02/mozilla-2-the-future-of-the-mozilla-platform/#comment-5250 @Tyler I'm pretty sure that Justin was referring to the difference between the 'Mozilla platform' that this blog discusses and Gecko, I was also wondering the same thing @Tyler

I’m pretty sure that Justin was referring to the difference between the ‘Mozilla platform’ that this blog discusses and Gecko, I was also wondering the same thing

]]> By: horia314 http://starkravingfinkle.org/blog/2008/02/mozilla-2-the-future-of-the-mozilla-platform/#comment-5247 horia314 Wed, 13 Feb 2008 20:35:06 +0000 http://starkravingfinkle.org/blog/2008/02/mozilla-2-the-future-of-the-mozilla-platform/#comment-5247 IMHO bad idea. Firefox is already kinda slow on my machine (granted it's not the newest or fastest machine - but it's a web browser, not some HP scientific application or video game), I'm not a guru on Firefox internals, but it seems to me like an over-engineered application - way to general for what it's supposed to do (I'm talking here about Gecko - I bet it's a ton of code in that framework, most of which would have better been hard-coded - how big and often do browser UIs change?) IMHO bad idea. Firefox is already kinda slow on my machine (granted it’s not the newest or fastest machine - but it’s a web browser, not some HP scientific application or video game), I’m not a guru on Firefox internals, but it seems to me like an over-engineered application - way to general for what it’s supposed to do (I’m talking here about Gecko - I bet it’s a ton of code in that framework, most of which would have better been hard-coded - how big and often do browser UIs change?)

]]> By: Tyler http://starkravingfinkle.org/blog/2008/02/mozilla-2-the-future-of-the-mozilla-platform/#comment-5245 Tyler Wed, 13 Feb 2008 18:03:11 +0000 http://starkravingfinkle.org/blog/2008/02/mozilla-2-the-future-of-the-mozilla-platform/#comment-5245 @Justin Rodes; Mozilla is the company that makes Firefox, Thunderbird, and a few other applications. Gecko is the name of the rendering engine used in numerous browsers such as Firefox. Wikipedia should have all of the information you need. ;) @Justin Rodes;

Mozilla is the company that makes Firefox, Thunderbird, and a few other applications. Gecko is the name of the rendering engine used in numerous browsers such as Firefox.

Wikipedia should have all of the information you need. ;)

]]> By: Tom Primoži? http://starkravingfinkle.org/blog/2008/02/mozilla-2-the-future-of-the-mozilla-platform/#comment-5243 Tom Primoži? Wed, 13 Feb 2008 16:32:09 +0000 http://starkravingfinkle.org/blog/2008/02/mozilla-2-the-future-of-the-mozilla-platform/#comment-5243 I am wondering... there has been some news recently about WebKit being far superior in terms of speed to just about anything (http://blogs.computerworld.com/safari_is_about_to_get_crazy_fast), and speed is an important factor in the popularity of web browsers and will become even more important as web browsers converge in terms of standards compliance. How will Mozilla be able to compete against the others with even more slow slow javascript? I think more things should go to C++ (or some other, more high level and less layered/delegated language) to ensure faster execution and smaller codebase (which is not a problem in itself, but results in longer load times). - Tom I am wondering… there has been some news recently about WebKit being far superior in terms of speed to just about anything (http://blogs.computerworld.com/safari_is_about_to_get_crazy_fast), and speed is an important factor in the popularity of web browsers and will become even more important as web browsers converge in terms of standards compliance. How will Mozilla be able to compete against the others with even more slow slow javascript? I think more things should go to C++ (or some other, more high level and less layered/delegated language) to ensure faster execution and smaller codebase (which is not a problem in itself, but results in longer load times).

- Tom

]]> By: cucu http://starkravingfinkle.org/blog/2008/02/mozilla-2-the-future-of-the-mozilla-platform/#comment-5242 cucu Wed, 13 Feb 2008 16:24:51 +0000 http://starkravingfinkle.org/blog/2008/02/mozilla-2-the-future-of-the-mozilla-platform/#comment-5242 I find quite surprising that people talk about exotic stuff but forget about the single most important thing that currently is missing - comprehensive support for multi-threading and multiple browser precesses - on an average page Firefox can be fuck*ng slow even on a quad-core system with 16 GB RAM, it can actually be so slow that you will not be able to switch to another tab (or Firefoc window) for 10-20 seconds !!! I find quite surprising that people talk about exotic stuff but forget about the single most important thing that currently is missing - comprehensive support for multi-threading and multiple browser precesses - on an average page Firefox can be fuck*ng slow even on a quad-core system with 16 GB RAM, it can actually be so slow that you will not be able to switch to another tab (or Firefoc window) for 10-20 seconds !!!

]]> By: Justin Rodes http://starkravingfinkle.org/blog/2008/02/mozilla-2-the-future-of-the-mozilla-platform/#comment-5233 Justin Rodes Wed, 13 Feb 2008 00:31:44 +0000 http://starkravingfinkle.org/blog/2008/02/mozilla-2-the-future-of-the-mozilla-platform/#comment-5233 Maybe I am just a little thick-headed, but I have a hard time understanding what the difference is between Mozilla and Gecko. Are they the same thing? Maybe I am just a little thick-headed, but I have a hard time understanding what the difference is between Mozilla and Gecko. Are they the same thing?

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